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	<title>Comments on: 2007 Worst Year for Local Builders in a Decade</title>
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	<description>Alex Stenback &#124; Twin Cities Blog on Mortgages, Rates, and Real Estate</description>
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		<title>By: Sven Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How can we get rid of historic inventories without lots of buyers? How can we have lots of buyers with restrictive lending and little savings?&quot;

Hmmmmm.......

What about some kind of ALL-NORTH-AMERICA-MILLION-POUND-SHITHAMMER natural disaster for the inventories, and then we could nuke the Swiss and steal their gold?

2008 looks grim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How can we get rid of historic inventories without lots of buyers? How can we have lots of buyers with restrictive lending and little savings?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>What about some kind of ALL-NORTH-AMERICA-MILLION-POUND-SHITHAMMER natural disaster for the inventories, and then we could nuke the Swiss and steal their gold?</p>
<p>2008 looks grim.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve seen that we&#039;re a declining market in a lot of parts of town, adding the 5% minimum down payment.  Good times.

But isn&#039;t that just the current guidelines?  If 2008 turns out bad, or worse than 2007, which I tend to think it will, I think this will get raised. 

The issue for the builder&#039;s, is that this is out of their control.  Drop prices if you want, it will take time for the current generation to save a down payment, especially if it&#039;s the middle of a recession.

How can we get rid of historic inventories without lots of buyers?  How can we have lots of buyers with restrictive lending and little savings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve seen that we&#8217;re a declining market in a lot of parts of town, adding the 5% minimum down payment.  Good times.</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t that just the current guidelines?  If 2008 turns out bad, or worse than 2007, which I tend to think it will, I think this will get raised. </p>
<p>The issue for the builder&#8217;s, is that this is out of their control.  Drop prices if you want, it will take time for the current generation to save a down payment, especially if it&#8217;s the middle of a recession.</p>
<p>How can we get rid of historic inventories without lots of buyers?  How can we have lots of buyers with restrictive lending and little savings?</p>
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		<title>By: Editor/Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor/Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - what you said, tightening condo guidelines, and the fact that with conventional Fannie/Freddie paper, if the property is in a declining market (per the appraisal), the minimum down payment goes up by 5% will wreak havoc on the lower end of the housing market.

Most of the major mortgage insurers have already deemed the Twin Cities MSA a declining market en masse...which means that even if your appraisal says it is NOT declining, nobody will insure your loan without a 5% down payment.

The credit crunch is getting crunchier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; what you said, tightening condo guidelines, and the fact that with conventional Fannie/Freddie paper, if the property is in a declining market (per the appraisal), the minimum down payment goes up by 5% will wreak havoc on the lower end of the housing market.</p>
<p>Most of the major mortgage insurers have already deemed the Twin Cities MSA a declining market en masse&#8230;which means that even if your appraisal says it is NOT declining, nobody will insure your loan without a 5% down payment.</p>
<p>The credit crunch is getting crunchier.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor/Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.behindthemortgage.com/2008/01/2007-worst-year-for-local-builders-in-a-decade.html/comment-page-1#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor/Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does read like a parody site.

Better to have a single page:

&quot;No matter your circumstances, future plans, what you are thinking, or what you have heard, NOW is a good time to buy a home.&quot;

I keep waiting for the trade orgs to catch on to the fact that if they actually are honest with their audience, many of them will still buy homes with their eyes wide open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does read like a parody site.</p>
<p>Better to have a single page:</p>
<p>&#8220;No matter your circumstances, future plans, what you are thinking, or what you have heard, NOW is a good time to buy a home.&#8221;</p>
<p>I keep waiting for the trade orgs to catch on to the fact that if they actually are honest with their audience, many of them will still buy homes with their eyes wide open.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.behindthemortgage.com/2008/01/2007-worst-year-for-local-builders-in-a-decade.html/comment-page-1#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other problem for the builders, is the continuing changes in lending.

Alot of homes were being sold with little money down, those potential buyers now often have to save a larger down payment to qualify for a mortgage.

Example:  300K home bought with 5% down required 15k saved.  If the builders deeply discount that property 10%  to 270K, but lenders require 10% down now, requires 27k saved.

People are having to learn how to save again.  Personally I think this is also keeping a good portion of potential home buyers on the sidelines for the next couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other problem for the builders, is the continuing changes in lending.</p>
<p>Alot of homes were being sold with little money down, those potential buyers now often have to save a larger down payment to qualify for a mortgage.</p>
<p>Example:  300K home bought with 5% down required 15k saved.  If the builders deeply discount that property 10%  to 270K, but lenders require 10% down now, requires 27k saved.</p>
<p>People are having to learn how to save again.  Personally I think this is also keeping a good portion of potential home buyers on the sidelines for the next couple of years.</p>
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